Dr. Sarah's Geometry of our Earth and Universe

Sit next to your "What is a Mathematician?" partner, if you have one. Read through this webpage carefully, skim the links below and then call me over when you are done.

While geometry means measuring the earth, too often it is presented in an axiomatic way, divorced from reality and experiences. In this next segment we will use intuition from experiences with hands on models and data to understand real-world applications of geometry such as the geometry of the earth and universe and applications of geometry to art. Now that you have seen some of the ways that mathematicians do research, you are going to do some research in mathematics the way that mathematicians do. We first think about the problems by ourselves. Then we consult books and journals, and rethink the problem using ideas from other sources to help us. Eventually we might talk to an expert in the field and see if they have ideas to help us. Recall that this process can be frustrating, but that it is the struggle that leads to deep understanding. (For example, Wiles describes doing mathematics as first entering a dark mansion and bumping into furniture. After a while he gets used to the dark and stops bumping into the furniture. Finally, after about 6 months, a light switch comes on and he sees where he has been all along.)


Research Problems

Geometry of the Earth

Problem 0 How could we tell that the earth is round instead of flat without using any technology (ie if we were ancient Greeks)?

Problem 1 In Euclidean geometry, a line can be defined as the shortest distance between two points. On other spaces, one can also define a "line" as the shortest distance between two points. Using this definition, what is the "line" between Tallahassee, Florida and Multan, Pakistan on the surface of a round spherical globe (no bumps)? What do "lines" between other points look like on the surface? Explain.

Problem 2 On the surface of a perfectly round beach ball, can the sum of angles of a spherical triangle (a curved triangle on the surface of the sphere) ever be greater than 180 degrees? Why?

Problem 3 Is SAS (side-angle-side, which says that if 2 sides of a triangle and the angle between them are congruent to those in a corresponding triangle, then the 2 triangles must be congruent) always true for spherical triangles (see Problem 3) on the surface of a perfectly round beach ball? Explain.

Problem 4 Assume we have a right-angled spherical triangular plot of land (see Problem 3) on the surface of a spherical globe between approximately Umanak, Greenland, Goiania, Brazil, and Harare, Zimbabwe, that measures 300 and 400 on its short sides. How long is the long side from Greenland to Zimbabwe? Why?

Problem 5 On the surface of a perfectly round beach ball representing the earth, if we head 30 miles West, then 30 miles North, then 30 miles East, and then 30 miles South would we end up back where we started? Why? What about 300 miles in each direction? What about 3000 miles in each direction? Explain.

Problem 6 Is the surface of a sphere 2-dimensional or 3-dimensional? Why?

Problem 7 If we slice one-fourth of a perfectly round loaf of bread (ie one quadrant) into equal width slices, where width is defined as usual using a straight edge or ruler, which piece has the most crust? Why?

Geometry of the Entire Universe

Problem 8 Is our universe 3-dimensional? Why?

Problem 9 How could we tell whether there are finitely or infinitely many stars in the universe? Explain.

Problem 10 Does our universe satisfy the laws of Euclidean geometry? Why?

Problem 11 How could we tell what shape space (the universe) is? Explain.


STEP 1 - Initial Intuition ONLY - book and web searches not allowed

When you have finished reading this entire site, and the related links, call Dr. Sarah over so that you can choose a problem. For now, you may use your intuition and Dr. Sarah's globes, but not anything else. Type in the problem number, the problem itself, your name(s), and your preliminary thoughts on the solution of this problem. Your lab grade today will be based on the clarity and depth of your explorations - but NOT on whether you got the "right" answer. Print out JUST ONE copy of your initial thoughts and prepare to present them to the rest of the class.

Dr. Sarah Modeling this Process for Problem 0


Initial Intuition
Problem 0
by Dr. Sarah

Problem 0: How could we tell that the earth is round and not flat without using any technology (ie if we were ancient Greeks)?

For my problem, I am asked how we could know that the earth is round and not flat without using any technology. I will attempt to answer this question by using only my initial intuition.

As I first thought about this problem, it occurred to me that if we traveled around the earth and fell off of it while we were traveling, then we would know that the earth was not round. On the other hand, if we never fell off while traveling, then we could not tell whether the earth was round, flat or some other shape. It could still be flat but perhaps our travels had just not taken us to the edge. Historically, I think that people thought that the earth was indeed flat, and that a ship could fall off the edge. I then realized that this approach would not solve the question, because it would never allow us to determine that the earth is actually round.

I next thought about trying to find a definitive method to tell if the earth was round and not flat. If we could travel all the way around the earth, being assured that we were traveling in the same direction all the time, then this would differentiate our living on a round earth from living on a flat earth. Yet, we are not allowed to use any technology to help us, so a compass would not be allowed. Given this, I'm not sure how we could know that we were traveling in the same direction. Hence, I decided that while this was a good idea, I could not make the method work without technology.

Finally, I gave up on the idea of traveling to reach a specific destination, and started to think about the constellations. If we travel to different places on the earth, we see differences in the stars. For example, constellations look very different in the northern hemisphere than in the southern hemisphere. Also, even within the northern hemisphere, the north star is in different positions in the sky. This would not occur if the earth were flat and would indicate that the earth was round.

This concludes my initial intuition on Problem 0.


STEP 2 DUE Tues November 13 - Using Your Search Skills to do Internet and Book Research and/or Physical Experimentation to Try and Answer Your Question

Consulting people or using anyone's notes for help (other than your partner or Dr. Sarah) is NOT ALLOWED and will be considered as PLAGIARISM. I am happy to help you think of experiments and words to search for, but you should try and do so on your own first (see my search techniques for Problem 0 for a reminder of efficient searching methods). I will not tell you whether you are correct or not for part 2, since the point is for you to do your own research.

Prepare a report and presentation due at the start of class on Tuesday, November 13. The report counts as 100% of this major writing assignment grade. You will turn in two copies of the following: (1 for me to keep)

  • Your report should have a cover page, a table of contents, the report, a list of numerous useful and relevant references, comments on how you used each reference, and copies of the references themselves. (You will turn in the first page of any web references that you use, along with the web page addresses, and a photocopy of any book info that you use, along with the book titles and authors.)
  • Your report should include the phrases that led you to your successful search. (For my example below, that would have been +round +earth +flat +"how can we tell" ). If you could not find relevant web pages, even with my help, briefly explain what you used to search, and why there were no relevant pages.
  • Your major writing assignment grade will be based on the quality of the web and/or book references that you find and/or experiments that you conduct, along with the clarity and depth of your answer. Having the "right" answer is not of prime importance as it is often the case that at this stage, mathematicians will still have incorrect ideas - recall from the Fermat video that Shimura made "good mistakes". The idea here is to deeply explore your question with help from web searching and/or experiments, and then to clearly communicate your research. Be sure to follow the writing checklist guidelines.

  • Your final classroom presentation (which will count just as participation) will consist of a reminder of your first impressions from today along with a summary of your successful research and/or experimentation techniques, and a summary of what you discovered.

    Dr. Sarah's References for Problem 0

    On the web, I searched for
    +round +earth +flat
    but too many pages resulted. Next I searched for
    +round +earth +flat +"how can we tell"
    which returned about 46 pages. After skimming through them, I decided that the following would be the most relevant . Read these - you are responsible for the ideas in them!
    Round Earth feels flat
    Was Columbus the first person to say the Earth is round?
    Why are planets round?
    How we know the Earth is round
    How Do We Know the Earth is Round?

    STEP 3: Get Intuition from an Expert (Dr. Sarah)

    This will occur in class after your reports are collected and you have completed your presentations.